PODCAST EP. 366: Working on a New Farm Bill and CRP Improvements in D.C.

Transcript for On The Wing Podcast Ep. 366: Working on a New Farm Bill and CRP Improvements in D.C.

Speaker 1 (00:50.546)

Welcome to On The Wing podcast presented by Purina Pro Plan. Got for you lined up what I think will be a snackable shorter episode as we celebrate holiday weekend in a shorter week. We got a quick hitter for you today, at least as I hit record and get going, I anticipate it.

Be a quick hitter, but you can never tell. I've got with me at Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever, our headquarters offices, got Casey Sill and making her podcasting debut, Mikayla Pepper. So our public relations dream team minus Jared Wickham. So listeners are familiar with Casey. Casey is punching his frequent co-hosting card with me again. Any movies that you want to bring up on this particular episode?

Speaker 3 (01:57.358)

No, I think we're out. We're fresh out of movies. The time has passed.

Speaker 1 (02:02.208)

Have you ever made a movie in Washington DC? Okay. The reason I bring that up is Mikayla joins us as our featured guest because we are going to be talking about her most recent trip to Washington DC. Maybe her first ever trip. I don't know the answer to that. We'll find out.

Speaker 3 (02:06.626)

No.

Speaker 1 (02:28.494)

Mikayla is our public relations specialist and she just went to Washington DC with Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever. We're going to talk about the Upland Caucus and our Washington DC fly-in, the status of the current farm bill, and we're going to get that all rolling for you in just a moment. Before we want to, I want to thank Purina Pro Plan as the national dog food sponsor.

of Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever's Wildlife Habitat mission and the presenting sponsor of On the Wing podcast. My pups have always eaten Purina ProPlan, not just because Purina supports the Wildlife Habitat conservation mission of our organization, which is important to me, but what's most important is that Purina ProPlan is a team of the world's best scientists and nutritionists behind their dog food. Purina ProPlan was created for the working bird dog like yours and like mine. You can learn more at proplansport.com. All right, we're going to talk about the Upland Caucus. We're going to talk about the DC Fly-In. Reporting on these elements to the organization, Mikayla Pepper, before you report on these elements, tell us a little bit about who you are.

Speaker 2 (03:52.64)

Yeah, hey, happy to be making my debut, I guess. I don't know if I'll be a cool frequent flyer like Casey, but...

Speaker 1 (04:00.94)

Nobody said he

Speaker 2 (04:02.976)

sorry, my bad. I'm taking leaps and bounds here. Yeah, my name's Mikayla Pepper. I am from Osceola, Wisconsin. Currently live in another small town in the Northwestern region of the state called Amory with my husband. Been married about seven months now. How's it going? It's going good. Everyone asks that. How's your life? Kind of the exact same, just with a fancy piece of paper that we have.

Um, no, life is, life is good. Um, yeah, I grew up with a bit of an agricultural background. I didn't grow up on a farm, but I grew up working on my neighbor's dairy farm. Um, and that just kind of spurred a lifelong love of all things, cows and farming. Um, also, also partially because my dad also grew up on a dairy farm. So.

kind of come in in that agriculture background in a few different angles. If anyone out there has ever heard of something called FFA or 4-H, those were also some things I did growing up. Yeah, so background in agriculture, but very happily found my way to the Habitat Organization. And as I kind of suspected and have learned more about, there's a lot of great connections to agriculture.

and conservation, namely CRP, which I think we'll talk more about here today. And I've had a great last couple of years here with the team.

Speaker 1 (05:39.052)

And you got your degree, University of Minnesota in Ag Communications, right?

Speaker 2 (05:43.614)

Egg communications. I have a hard time saying egg. People think, egg? No, I'm saying egg. Egg? Agriculture.

Speaker 1 (05:52.398)

Which is a perfect fit. And here you work in the public relations communications team with Jared, with Casey, with me. And then you are also kind of a part of the government affairs team too.

Speaker 2 (06:10.414)

Yeah, that's kind of been something unexpected. I started out on the communications team, but have kind of found a little bit of a niche by helping out our government affairs team with any communications needs that they have, press releases, blogs, et cetera. It's helpful to be more connected to the team, especially with all the government lingo. I'm still learning.

far from being an expert, so thankfully I still have the government affairs team to back me up. But it is helpful for me to attend their weekly meetings, just to stay more connected in what's going on on a week-to-week basis, especially with the ups and downs of the farm bill these last few years. It is helpful to stay in the know a little bit more rather than suddenly being surprised with some government news.

Speaker 1 (07:04.684)

Yeah, and having to learn on the fly as you write something to spread the news either through a press release or action alert, staying connected to the government affairs team helps you close that learning curve.

Speaker 2 (07:19.854)

And there have been some really fun projects over the past year, including launching our platform called Quorum, which is how we serve everyone action alerts that they can then participate in. Super easy platform to use, just a couple of clicks. And before you know it, you've sent your emails off to, sometimes it's maybe your state representatives, sometimes it's federal representatives, just kind of depends on the topic at hand.

So I help out on the background of that platform. More recently, I've helped to launch a newsletter featuring activities and news from the government affairs team called LAF on Point. But stay tuned for more on the definition of LAF.

Speaker 1 (08:06.446)

We will get to LAF and what that acronym means, creation of our own. It's been around for a while, but we'll talk about LAF in a moment. Let's start with why you went to Washington DC with the government affairs team here just a couple of days ago. Give us the lay of the land for the reason and we can take it from there.

Speaker 2 (08:30.274)

Yeah, for sure. So just last week, I had the absolute honor of spending a couple of days in DC. This was my second time in our nation's capital. First was back in high school, so I was happy to return. But this time with a couple of dozen of our Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever members in tow, alongside myself and a couple other PF and QFT members accompanying everyone. So...

Those couple of dozen members are from our Upland Caucus, which is a pilot program here at the Habitat Organization to further engage members who are particularly interested in advocacy and the advocacy pillar of our mission. They are champions in short, they are champions of advocacy back home.

People who have already done an awesome job participating in things like sporting days at the Capitol, maybe they've testified on behalf of a bill that they're trying to pass in their state. These are people who have great communication skills, are passionate about what the organization is trying to accomplish in one way or another, and who we have asked to further

invest in the advocacy part of our mission by being a part of this group. So they are representing a lot of different states too across 16 states, some core pheasant states like Minnesota, the Dakotas. But we also have representatives from states like Maryland, Texas, Arkansas.

So we got a good variety of people covering a lot of different regions and therefore a lot of different birds as well. We've got people who are passionate about pheasant hunting, hunting all the six species of quail, people who love prairie chickens, who love sage grouse, and also people who love pollinators and native grasses. So a really good variety of people who have a lot of different passions.

Speaker 2 (10:45.286)

and backgrounds. These are not only PF and QF members, but they're also landowners. They are farmers. They're full-time workers who are ready to take that next step in advocating for our mission. I guess we can also talk about specifically the DC Fly-In. So this group flew into DC as well, like I said, and

they had the opportunity to meet with their senators or representatives. So those are people in the Senate buildings and over in the House, that is of representatives. So thankfully our government affairs team did a great job organizing all of that. And we broke out into smaller groups and attended these meetings to advocate for what we care about in

Right now, what is happening with the farm bill was super topical. We advocated for the farm bill and for improvements for CRP, the Conservation Reserve Program, was definitely the highlight of our conversations with senators. In my group, for example, we met with a senator from Wisconsin, a from Ohio, and a senator from Maryland. So we had a...

little bit of a good variety there. And a lot of variety in conversations as well. Some people who are familiar with wildlife biology and ecology. A gal we met with in Wisconsin was actually an ecology major. So she kind of already knew what was going on versus the folks that we met with representing the Maryland office had no idea what CRP was. But all in all,

Speaker 1 (12:39.822)

critically important that we're there to help educate.

Speaker 2 (12:43.042)

Yes, you know, I think that was super interesting for myself and our volunteers to hear that something we talk about in our everyday lingo, someone had barely heard of what CRP was. So even more important that this group was there to talk about that stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:03.672)

Yeah, right. Especially when you consider, you know, to pass a farm bill, you need a majority. And, you know, there's only one U.S. representative in the state of South Dakota, right? So you think pheasant capital in the country, two senators and one rep. You know, we need a lot more votes than that to pass a farm bill with a strong conservation title, Title II, in the House, you know, and we need a

We needed a number of representatives and number of senators to carry that bill. And conservation has to mean more to them than pheasants alone, which makes the argument why we expanded the organization into quail country while we're talking about sage-grouse, while we're talking about lesser prairie chickens and pollinators. It broadens the constituency or the elected officials

value in the constituency that cares about conservation in the farm bill. So we will talk a little bit more about what you talked about with the CRP in LAF. I do want to transition to Casey and for probably the last month or so listeners have heard the NPR version of Casey Sill with our

relatively new at this moment, the Upland Newsroom. I'll transition to you can deliver the Upland Newsroom for the first time live on a podcast for us.

Speaker 3 (14:44.15)

Yeah, first go at it. I've been harkening back to my J-school days. I didn't do a ton of radio and broadcasts in school, I'm trying to tap into that now.

Speaker 1 (14:55.598)

It's working. Take her away.

Speaker 3 (15:00.558)

From Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever National Headquarters in St. Paul, Minnesota, this is Casey Sill with the Upland Newsroom, delivering top stories from the Habitat Organization and across the American uplands. We begin in Minnesota, where last week the Nature Conservancy and Pheasants Forever announced they've protected 1,900 acres of native prairie, wetlands, and restorable grassland in Clay County near the Fargo-Moorhead Metro.

The acquisition strengthens a growing network of conserved prairie in the Red River Valley. Through the grant, TNC will add 480 acres to its adjacent Blazing Star Prairie Preserve and 320 acres will be transferred to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources to create the new Keen Wildlife Management Area. The remaining 1,100 acres will be transferred to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service expanding the Northern Tallgrass Prairie National Wildlife Refuge

and Flickertail Prairie Waterfowl production area. All protected land will be open to the public for recreational access and hunting. Moving to Washington, where last week Colton Buckley was appointed as the new chief of the Natural Resources Conservation Service. Buckley will now lead the implementation of NRCS programs that provide resources and assistance to agricultural producers and rural landowners while investing in the nation's wildlife resources. Buckley recently served

served as the Associate Chief of the NRCS and as the Chief Executive Officer of the National Association of Resource Conservation and Development Councils. Errol Weigard, Pheasants Forever's Vice President of Government Affairs, congratulated Buckley on his new position, saying, Chief Buckley is a seasoned agriculture professional and outdoorsman who understands the deep connection between working lands and wildlife conservation. In Illinois, Pheasants Forever and Coel Forever recently secured a new grant to improve

upland habitat in the central part of the state, as well as generate interest in starting more prescribed burn associations. The grant was secured through the Illinois Forestry Development Council and provides funding to host in-person and online burn workshops and landowner visits, assisting landowners in writing burn plans, as well as landowner-led fire training. Central Illinois is home to a unique upland habitat, Hill Prairies with Loess Soil. That's L-O-E-S-S.

Speaker 3 (17:20.321)

Some of you may be more familiar with the Los Hills of Iowa and my old stomping grounds of the Missouri River Valley, but these upland habitats also exist in Illinois. Often on south-facing slopes, they need fire to exist, and this grant will help ensure they continue to thrive in Illinois. That'll do it this week. Reporting from P.F. and Q.F. headquarters in St. Paul, Minnesota, I'm Casey Sill.

Speaker 1 (17:42.924)

Wow. drop moment.

Speaker 2 (17:46.446)

Thank you for spelling Lois by the way because in my head I went

Speaker 3 (17:51.33)

Loess. Yeah, I know that's a tough one, but I did grow up right across the river from the Loess Hills, so that's something I have.

Speaker 1 (17:57.26)

I thought it was pronounced less hills.

Speaker 3 (17:59.534)

Maybe I'm wrong after all this. So if anybody's listening and wants to write me, I grew up East Nebraska directly across from that. We always pronounce them low.

Speaker 1 (18:01.507)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:11.306)

Well, I would trust your pronunciation more than a yooper's. What do I know? If radio was thriving and vibrant, live radio, I'd be worried about losing you, NPR would come and pluck you away. Very well done. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:34.67)

Thank you. Yeah, it's been a fun. I've really enjoyed doing it so far. Like I said, I get to tap into a little newsy, the news side of my schooling and all that kind of stuff. So it's a cool addition to my job.

Speaker 1 (18:47.416)

Cool addition to the podcast. you. All right, Mikayla, back to you. What did you and the Upland Caucus talk about when you met with elected officials in DC?

Speaker 2 (19:01.28)

Yeah, so our focus was on CRP and other CRP related programs, which falls under the farm bill. First, I just got to say this is a tough job to talk about the farm bill and to encourage these folks to get a farm bill done. I don't think anybody really realizes unless you work directly.

in government how massive the farm bill is. It is a huge piece of legislation that covers a variety of topics. So it is important that we first make our voice heard as people who care about the conservation piece of things. first of all, I just want to thank all of our Upland caucus members for traveling out and doing this and talking about what

is important for hunting, for land management, conservation. So yeah, thanks to them, first of all, because that was, it's not an easy job to talk about, but everyone did great. Yeah, we just really wanted to encourage, especially the Senate, to get the farm bill done in 2026, which is a big ask because it has been renewed the past

couple of years here with one year extensions. you. One year extensions, past couple of years here. The last new farm bill was in 2018. And if you don't know much about farm bills, they're only supposed to be five years before they are redone. So we are in the eighth year of the farm bill, which is not great when it comes to things like

Speaker 1 (20:27.662)

Thanks watching.

Speaker 2 (20:54.164)

land rental rates.

Speaker 1 (20:56.642)

Soil renal rates for conservation. Yes.

Speaker 2 (20:59.608)

So all of that is very out of date, even past 2018. Things like cost sharing for mid-contract management. When you have a CRP contract, you are required somewhere in the middle of that contract, whether it's 10, 15 years, to do some mid-contract management on that land. And that can look like prescribed burning, reseeding, all kinds of different things.

Speaker 1 (21:25.526)

which reinvigorates the habitat that's on the ground. Because otherwise, any piece of property that's 15 years old, if unmanaged, it becomes a monoculture and loses its viability or dynamic qualities for wildlife.

Speaker 2 (21:44.012)

Yeah. So right now there is no cost sharing for that management for a lot of landowners that I have talked to. For example, one of our members from Kansas, he's a landowner, was saying that there's no options for the farmers to get help with the cost of what it takes to do that management, whether it's buying seed or equipment.

And their time as well. As well as improving program delivery is another important aspect that needs some work. Increasing technical assistance access in funding is a couple of key things that are needed right now for CRP. So also I should back up a second. I skipped ahead.

If anyone isn't sure where we are in the farm bill process, a little bit ago here, the House of Representatives passed their version of the farm bill. So they get the fun job of going first with drafting one up and passing it out of the Agriculture Committee. And then it was passed by the full House. But now it's the Senate's turn. So currently we are awaiting to see a draft of the farm bill from the Senate Agriculture Committee.

And once that is seen, it will go through a huge review process. And then eventually the entire Senate will vote on it as a whole. And that needs to get passed with a majority vote. After that happens, then the House and the Senate need to get together and mash those two versions together. Reconciliation. Yes, some fun technical terms.

Speaker 1 (23:32.536)

Reconcilia

Speaker 2 (23:37.326)

and agree on one version essentially. then we get a farm bill. don't know if you've been paying attention to government lately, but people aren't agreeing on things at all very well. So that is kind of a big ask right now, but we are really asking our senators to, just get the job done. it is, it is time for, for this to happen.

for a lot of people, for the benefit of a lot of people. So those are a couple of different things that we're hoping will be included for CRP in their draft of the Farm Bill.

Speaker 1 (24:20.056)

So if I can recap that with a baseball analogy, right? Passing the House was crossing first base. We're running towards second right now. If we can get it passed out of the Senate, then we're crossing second base and running towards third. Third base is reconciliation. We get past reconciliation, then we're heading towards home plate for the president to sign a new farm bill. right?

And the cool thing is, or the optimistic thing, is that we're further along now than we have been in any time, any point in the last, well, three years. Actually, any point since 2018, really, since the last one passed. So there is cause for optimism, which is where our listeners come in.

Speaker 2 (25:10.678)

Yeah, if you are interested in helping us to further this along, you can take action right now. We do have an action alert that is live online and you can send a message to your senators to tell them to please pass the farm bill this year and include improvements for CRP. And you can do that by either typing in pheasants.

forever.org slash action, or you can find the link on any of our social media platforms. We just posted that link just this last week here on May 14th. So you can find that on our social platforms as well.

Speaker 1 (25:57.646)

And before we run out of time, I know you wanted to thank some folks that helped make our efforts in Washington, D.C., and actually in every capital around the country, a reality. And then go ahead and thank those folks.

Speaker 2 (26:15.222)

Yeah, I wish if I could pull the group of our listeners and say, hey, do you know what LAF stands for? I could throw you a piece of candy. I wish you could, but proud of you if you're listening and you already know what LAF is all about. But in case you don't, LAF stands for Legislative Action Fund, which is an opportunity for our members and chapters to donate specifically towards the advocacy piece of our mission.

Well, of course, I think everybody knows you can donate towards our organization, towards Habitat projects and that sort of thing. But the importance of advocacy cannot be understated because these people in our state governments and our federal governments are making decisions that trickle down and ultimately influence the work that we do, the work that our volunteers do on a day-to-day basis.

So it's important to be engaged and those who donate to LAF, I think see the importance of that. And Legislative Action Fund, like I said, is for advocacy purpose and it's an optional way to donate towards that cause and to support our government affairs team. So you are supporting our team and their

their day-to-day actions. They are in DC and in our state capitals meeting with these representatives, with these legislators to sometimes encourage them to pass a bill, sometimes to tell them why a bill might not be such a great idea or the impacts that it could have. There's a lot of great work that they do day-to-day. A lot of times behind the scenes, it's not always super flashy headlines, but it takes a lot of day-to-day work from our government affairs team.

to get a lot of this stuff done.

Speaker 1 (28:11.342)

Or another example, you talked a lot about playing offense, like creating good conservation programs within the farm bill or at state capitals. It also means playing defense. the last few weeks, we talked about the Greyhound Act. Casey, you mentioned that in a couple of different upland newsrooms. That language got removed after it came out of the House Ag Committee. It got removed before it ever went to the US House.

Legislative Action Fund helps our efforts to play offense and defense with language that's in those conservation oriented policies that move forward in DC or Lansing, Michigan. You also mentioned folks can contribute to LAF. You don't have to be a member or a chapter. If you're a listener and you value the farm bill,

You value Conservation Reserve Program or our ability to work in Washington, D.C. or create funding for conservation at state capitals. You can also contribute to our efforts. Hey, we're a non-profit. We encourage you to become a member. We encourage you to become a donor. We encourage you to leave us in your will, leave land in your will. There's all sorts of ways to contribute to the organization. You can hit me up at bobs at pheasantsforever.org.

And if there's a way that you want to contribute or engage, hit me up with an email and I'll make sure it lands in the right.

Speaker 2 (29:49.342)

Awesome, but if you have donated to LAF in any amount, thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much Our team appreciates it because this is an ongoing effort So we really appreciate your support. Thanks

Speaker 1 (30:06.03)

All right, I tried to make it 15 minutes and I'm looking and we're approaching a half hour.

Speaker 2 (30:12.27)

No way. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (30:14.382)

Any closing thoughts? Casey, we'll start with you. Any closing thoughts as we wrap up? God.

Speaker 3 (30:21.856)

Well, I think we're at a half an hour. I think we got a lot. have a lot of questions about just the ins and outs of how some of these meetings and things like that work. But maybe I'll just throw one in there real quick. Well, I want to know what did they talk to you guys? I'm trying to put myself in your guys' shoes, right? And going into meet with the senators teams and how do you how do you sort of get in the mindset of that? Like they must be bombarded with their teams are bombarded with these meetings all day, every single day.

Did they talk to you guys about sort of how to stand out? How to like, how to start that pitch? Cause it's got, I was just interested in how you even went about a meeting like that.

Speaker 2 (30:58.856)

Yeah, thank goodness we had a short training session that morning before we headed over to the Capitol. Andrew Schmitz and Ariel Weigard, a couple of our government affairs leaders, led the way on that. And it is difficult because, well, first I should say a lot of times we're actually meeting with staff.

in these offices. That's something some people might not realize is these senators, believe it or not, have pretty busy schedules. So a lot of time you only have a chance to meet with their staff, which is a okay, because really they're the backbone of these offices. They are making the day to day go round. So they're very much so important people to talk to. I don't know if there was much to stand out per se.

I guess one way that we did that is we have the stress birds. I'm sure you guys are familiar with the stress fuzzing in stress, Bob White quail like little squishies. So we had a whole pile of those that we took with and kind of at the end of our meetings, I just whip them out of my bag and say, and we have a couple of presents for you guys as well. Let's remember us, bye. Sure.

Leave behinds are also important. I have one of them right here, but leave behinds, sheets of paper on more information on what we kind of talked about in the meeting and about our organization as well as contact information for our team members if they have follow-up questions are important to have and I think pretty common. But one of the great tips that they had also was

talk about who you are and what you're there for as their constituent, but also ask them questions, get to know them, what's important to them. And that helped us a lot because that's how we discovered in the one Wisconsin meeting that the staffer we met with had an ecology background and helped us kind of further that conversation a little more naturally instead of it being forced from their talking points.

Speaker 3 (33:16.43)

Yeah. That's interesting how I was, like I said, I was trying to put myself in that room. I've never been in that situation before. So I can imagine it would be hard at first to figure out how to go about sort of sticking out in the crowd. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:32.078)

Absolutely. And it's very interesting because, and I'm glad they, our team members warned us about this, but you expect to maybe see some seasoned 30, 40, 50 year old folks who've been around the block a couple times. You come around the corner and it's someone in their 20s who says, hey, Pheasants Forever, I'm here for your meeting today. I just have to roll with it, but.

Super common actually to see a lot of young people behind the scenes in our federal government. People who are recent grads working their way up in their careers.

Speaker 3 (34:09.62)

seasoned 30 year

Speaker 1 (34:12.854)

That's what my mind went to.

Speaker 2 (34:14.382)

Experience? Sorry.

Speaker 3 (34:15.959)

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:17.902)

Is that what we call a pepper in my beard seasoned? It wasn't seasoned when I was in my 30s or my 40s.

Speaker 3 (34:27.181)

you

No!

Speaker 1 (34:31.15)

Was it intimidating?

Speaker 2 (34:36.045)

Before we left, it was a little scary. But then you get there and I'll just use an example of Tammy Baldwin's office from Wisconsin. She had this little blown up cow thing that was this big in the corner of her office and a map of the state parks over here and different plaques and pictures of things that she's done.

So it felt actually pretty homey in a lot of the offices, just a lot of decorations of things from their homes and things that are important to them. And then a lot of times we would just meet in smaller side conference rooms. So it was actually quite relaxed. On the other hand, if I were to be asked to testify in front of one of their committees or the whole...

Senate or something like that, that would be kind of scary because we got a glimpse at some of those rooms as well. man, some of them, because some of those are what you see on TV, right? When you're watching hearings and it's a whole like studio production. There was these big lights everywhere in these rooms. So that would be pretty intimidating. But this, this not so much.

Speaker 1 (35:54.55)

The setting in the history can be very intimidating.

Speaker 2 (35:59.598)

for sure. But at the end of the day, we were working on getting into an elevator to get to a different floor and out comes Amy Klobuchar. I run into her face to face in the elevator and I say, excuse me, that's just a casual day when you're hanging out in Senate buildings, I guess.

Speaker 1 (36:20.174)

Any closing thoughts from you, Mikayla?

Speaker 2 (36:24.558)

I don't think so, except I highly encourage you to advocate. It's not scary, especially when you are the topic expert. Our members were definitely the topic experts. They deal with CRP and conservation practices every day. So you're just talking about your day-to-day life and what's important to you. So it's not a scary thing to do.

when you're the expert and anyone can do it. We did not have to be this organized group to enter these buildings. These are publicly accessible buildings. All you have to do is go through security and boom, you're in. Sometimes scheduling can be tough. Just scheduling those meetings ahead of time might be key, but you can just walk up to their offices and say, hey, I'd like to set up a meeting and talk about this. So it's accessible to anyone.

Speaker 1 (37:22.796)

And on that note, give us the email for the Senate Action Alert, or the address for the Senate Action Alert to get a farm bill.

Speaker 2 (37:34.786)

The

Speaker 1 (37:37.196)

Day.

Speaker 2 (37:38.886)

the website. okay, sorry. was like, what email do you want? Well, our government affairs team email is advocacy@pheasantsforever.org. If you ever have any government related questions, if you in your state, you've heard about a bill pop up that might affect our mission in some way.

Speaker 1 (37:40.342)

I'm sorry, not the email, the website.

You

Speaker 2 (38:06.83)

Feel free to hit up that email and our team will get back to you. But if you want to participate in the action alerts to the Senate to encourage them to get a farm bill done and to strengthen CRP, you can go to pheasantsforever.org/action.

Speaker 1 (38:24.536)

That's the one I was after. Thank you. All right, folks, for Casey Sill and Mikayla Pepper, I'm Bob St. Pierre thanking you for listening and reminding you to always follow the dog. Something good will rise. Thanks, folks.